RPG Classics Mailbag
Well, SG is 17 now. We're happy that he no longer can boss us around, right Kaggy?
He isn't happy about it at all.
I guess Kagon just likes being dominated.
This I do believe 984.
Well, now that that's established, we may wanna move on. We have a big Mailbag tonight, folks, so thanks for sending in.
Yeah, you guys are my heroes!
I'm not your hero?
Oh, he took your word. Haw.
Sorry pal. ANYWHO, we oughts to get this party started. Kagon! Fetch me the first letter!
Psst. SG. You're no longer in charge.
No. Get it yourself pal.
Psst, 984. Kagon enjoys being dominated. Remember?
Psst, SG. You're wrong.
Psst, Kagon. How dare you listen in on my psst messages!?
Oh, I dare. Oh-ho-ho!
I dare you to get the next letter :P
They're gonna be like this all night, folks, so I'll just get the first Reply. It's from... Kero Hazel! A Staffer. Heyas Kero.
Custer's Revenge... Good idea. That definitely needs to be remade.
Yes Kero, start over while you still can.
But! Custer's Revenge!
What's a Custer?
Something in between Buster and Duster.
If you have to ask SG, you aren't old enough.
No one had to ask me anything though.
Now, the game (or rather, series) I'm thinking of wouldn't be staying true
to its roots as far as gameplay goes, but as far as story and theme. The
game I really want to remake is... a Zelda game. Not 3D, as that's already
been done. Not back-to-basics dungeons & puzzles, as the two Oracles games
did that, and quite well I might add. No, I'm talking about remaking Zelda
into an RPG -- a true mainstream RPG, with HP and experience and party
members, all that and a bag of chips.
A true Zelda RPG... Might be good, but no Indian Rape is bad.
No 984, no Indian Rape is good. Very good.
What's a good RPG without Indian rape?
I bet Weiila's not an idiot, Kagon.
Not, she sure isn't. I was refering to YOU guys anyways.
Well, you need to make it up to Weiila anyway.
So get the next reply! HOOHOOHAHAHAHAHAHA.
SG, calm down and take your pound of Ritalin, boy.
Sure, I'd love to get the reply from Weiila.
I bet you love it just because it's Weiila. You sly dog you.
Well, no Replies were really overly long except for two, but we'll get to those. As for Fanfics, yeah. We need like Maz to say something.
Fan Fiction can be very nice. I don't particularly enjoy reading it, however they are by no means bad just because they're fanfiction. I'm just a terribly picky reader.
Yeah. SG doesn't read anything that doesn't have pretty pop up pictures next to it.
I've always enjoyed reading the fanfics and don't believe they're plagerism at all. I feel that they can greatly add depth into characters and tend to make me want to replay the games again like your fanfics on Chrono Trigger did.
I like books that talk about furry bunnies and living of da fat a da lan'.
Oh well. *Takes the apple pie and throws it in SG's face*
!!!!!!!!! *Is apple pie smacked* ARGGGGG IT'S GOOEY!
SG, get help...
I think I'll go to the bathroom. *Walks off to wash up*
Well, while SG's in the bathroom, we'll look at maskedgermanian's Reply. Kinda fitting since she loves SG and whatnot.
Hello, Everyone. This is maskedgermanian, communicating from beyond the Absolute. This topic has interested me, so I'm getting Ultros to send it to you. (whip crack is heard in background.) Aaaaaanyway...
Well, if all RPGs stayed true to the beaten path, they would be pretty boring. Innovation is good.
Eh, Chrono Cross, though it only really had development for a few characters, was still a very good game. Also new school games, which we defined before, meant games on the PSX and later.
Although some games on the SNES are more new school than some new school games.
Eh, that is true. But I was giving more of a general definition.
Yeah. I know what you meant. As for 2D Graphics... That would be nice, but 3D Graphics can be good too as long as there is substance in the game rather than just "purdy piktures"
Earthbound was a beautiful game- the cultists were funny just like the whole game. It made a very nice parody.
*Comes back from the bathroom* Did I miss anything cool?
Oh, so I see...That's...cool...DAMNIT.
Wanna know how you can make it up?
What? You guys owe ME a favor for not telling me!
Get the next Reply.
Yeah, now we order you around, mwahhaahaha.
I will, but you guys still need to make IT up to ME GRRRR. Our next reply is from a newcomer, Ariana.
I just found your website not too long ago while looking for some Star Ocean 2 info. Great site! Anyway I wanted to answer the last question but got in too late. Since this is a free for all I thought I would answer anyway. I would remake Dragon Warrior 4 and Phantasy Star 3 for the Playstation 2. Dragon Warrior 4 was supposed to be remade and out this year but they cancelled it. Phantasy Star 3 just because of the different system with the marriages...I loved that game and went through every possible match and ending. On the subject of RPGs in general I think we need more! Especially for the PS2 if you are looking for them on Gamecube good luck. Nintendo doesnt really bother much with them anymore they havent since the SNES. Xbox dont really care either because whoever has Square has me...always has always will. Im one of those old ones who has been playing games since the Atari and Rpgs since NES.
Square only has me for the SaGa series, but I'd still buy all other games systems if I could. The new Panzer Dragoon RPG is gonna be released on XBox. :O
I may buy a GC for Skies of Arcadia Legend, and SoA2 will probably come out for it, which is good.
I bet Kagon will have a thing or two to say about Dragon Warrior 8 possibly being released on the Gamecube. :P
Square doesn't really own me except for SaGa. Enix, on the other hand, has me rather nicely. So does Interplay with the Baldur's Gate/Icewind Dale series. And yes, Dragon Warrior 8 being released on the Gamecube makes Kagon cry ;_;.
That's okay, Kagon. I'm betting Ralph's Reply will cheer you up.
SG, Play Earthbound, damnit! IT KICKS ASS! Plus its got psychedelic backgrounds and New Age Retro Hippies. Did I mention is kicks ass? Yes, Merl r teh dev0l. But DN r teh even more bad dev0l, cause he wont unban me from the chat(I DO NOTHING AND GET PERM BANNED!)
Amazing. We made the most general RPG topic ever and you couldn't even do it. :P
*Laughs* Hah! You were right. That did cheer me up.
You see folks, when we say rant on RPGdom, we don't mean stuff like that.
You know what this means, kids?
Now, we need a GOOD Reply to remove that awful taste from my mouth.
*Looks around* Hmm... MegamanX2K's Reply is pretty good.
*Looks at it* You're right.
First off, to blatantly ignore each of the four rules
set up for this mailbag...*ahem*
No, thank YOU :O O: :O O:
Nice way to break the rules, X. Very, uh, square sounding.
Secondly, I thought of another answer to last week's
'bag. SMRPG of course! All it needs is some diffculty
tweaking (Make it harder! Harder! HARDER!) and lower
on the money. And smoother geaphics. And a secret
dungeon would be cool, too I guess.
It's unfortunate that we haven't played any of those games. TOOOOOOOOO BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAD.
MMORPG on AoK could be good, if I ever played AoK or had a decent connection for MMORPGs.
Don't worry, X. We have a MMORPG topic idea in the works. Oh yes. We do... Muwahahahahaha*Coughs violently*
So Kagon, how's about getting the next reply?
*Keeps coughing violently* I'll*cough*try*coughcough*
I don't think you should, Kaggy. Get Mudo to.
*Coughs* Good*cough*idea. Mudo! *Coughs up a lung*
Grah. Fine. *Grumbles* Next is a Reply from Zenogais, and boy does it ever fit in the same category as Ralph's.
didn't step on the caik. I have one statement..... WHERE THE **** IS XENOSAGA!?!?!?! THEY BETTER RELEASE IT OVER HERE OR I'M GONNA RANT IN EVEN BIGGER CAPS!!!!
Two statements, eh? Know what that means?
well that was...yeah. Let's just continue.
What a buncha freaks...
So uh, who's gonna get the next reply? Not me, I don't FEEL like it.
Oh, hey Energon. Since you're here, you can grace us with your presence... By getting the next Reply.
What?! Oh damn it! Grah... Fine. Slavoc's up. Stupid me for showing up...
Hey all, I'll try to keep this short, 'cuz i could write a 200 page long essay on all my RPG experence stuff... Anywho...
That might be a good topic, just cos I can think of a very good reply for it.
Nice story, Slavoc, and we'll keep that topic in mind for the future. My closest call was fighting the three Harvest Sprites in Harvest Moon 64. It was hard because my Axe was only Silver.
Isn't Harvest Moon, like, a farming Sim? Meaning, no fighting?
Well, there was no true fighting, per se... I just liked using my Axe on the Harvest Sprites, and since they didn't die, it was a tough battle.
Wow. Just wow.
Psh. Fine. Sorry if I want to kill Harvest Sprites in a Farming Game. I got bored with growing Tomatoes.
Then you didn't pick the best game for fighting obviously.
Don't worry 984. I bet you showed those elves who the DA BOSS was.
I did. They even gave me a Recipe and a Power Berry for it.
mmmmm. hmm. WELL, let's look at the next reply.
Indeed. Grab it SG.
Alright, I shall. This next one comes from my first contributor ever to the Fan Music section, the lovely Miss Silver Knight!
SilverKnight here. Hi. Wee. >looks at the topic< Wow, you guys are really running low on topic ideas, aren't you? Ah, well, it's all good, I need to vent anyway.
Actually, we had some other ideas. We just thought this would be a good one. So good in fact we may do it again in the future.
Yeah, people to need rant occasionally.
This is the truth. Wanna send us in some nice ideas though? :P
Yes. Sending in ideas = good.
Getting to the topic at hand, what are the things that piss me off about RPG's? Most people I've heard seem to talk about lack of originality/lack of graphics/lack of cool characters/etc ad nauseum. Well, I'm more of a plot person, myself. So, for me, it's the lack of THOUGHT. I mean, there are twists out the friggin' wazoo in newer RPG's--which is all well and good, mind you--but would it be so hard to think of an actual REASON for these twists? Not just, "Oh, I want to throw something totally out of the blue to make the person playing say 'wtf are you thinking you RETARD?!'" ...okay, I'm ranting. (Naturally, that's the point of this topic, but hey, I've always been the black sheep. ...Wait, but my entire family consists of black sheep...so, what would that make me, green? ...Okay, now I'm BABBLING. >shuts up<)
*is struck by Silver Knight's two and a half cents* Ow.
They were Canadian cents, so they couldn't hurt THAT much.
That is sorta true. I didn't like FF8's "We all grew up together and forgot" bullcrap. However it did end up making a lot of cents, but it was so ridiculous!
Yeah, FF8's little turns angered me more than anything else. The plot was just... ugh.
Eh, to be honest I thought it was the best of the PSX series, exempt FFT. But THAT was just pleh.
Eh, I loved FF9. FF8 was alright but nothing special really.
I still need to play the PSX FFs.
FF9 upset me greatly. I really felt that the last boss of that game was just THROWN in there.
Most last bosses seem that way.
Eh, if you ever play FF9, you'll be a lot more respectful to all those OTHER seeminglyt pointless last bosses.
Oh, did I mention he quotes Yoda? Yeah. So anyways. :P
Heh, I thought FF8's last boss was rather cheesy. And yes, the Yoda quote was funny.
Senseless last battle he is not. Following the last boss rule he is.
Alright then, Yoda quotes aside, our next reply comes from Doc Shinryuu.
Woo. Doc Shinryuu. Always good.
*Suddenly, the door swings open... And there's nobody there. In a few
seconds, Doc Shinryuu Mega-Man-style-teleports in.* Hello, everyone. Doc
Shinryuu again. *...* What? You were expecting a fanfare?
So many theories, not enough proof.
Nice chronology of the FF series, but how does FFX fit into it?
Hey, reminds me of that rap song!
As for the different games, the landscape changes, and given a continental drift at roughly 1 inch per year, which is Earth's value I believe, there is no way they could look that drastically different.
People argue that the continents looks similar too. But I don't ever really see how.
Well, the Lunar games were set 1000 years apart, and those worlds changed too.
Bah. I guess I shouldn't apply LOGIC and SCIENCE to fantasy worlds, now should I? Anyway, the next reply is another MMORPG Rant from BahamutXero, a MB visitor.
Cost is the main reason I don't even consider MMORPGs. It's obnoxious to pay that much for a game.
A low yearly fee may be a bit more acceptable, but free online games would be better, like SC.
Usually it has to be done though. I mean, they made a new PSO for the main reason of making it necesary to pay. However they got peopel to buy it by making it harder to h4x0rz.
2. To me they seem to be pointless, now befor you start going crazy (even though it is often amusing when you do so), let me say something. I say pointless because in a sense, they never end. I mean I get satifaction from beating a game and one that just keeps going on and on seems boring to me.
Yes, I agree with you there. The MMORPGs tend to be fun for a while, but once you've figured most of it out, the novelty wears off, and the game loses much of it's fun.
That's true with a lot of games though.
There are MMORPGs with an offline function to make it fun anyways.
A freind of mine played Dark Ages of Camelot and it seemed to take forever to do anything. To build up craftmanship levels you just keeping typing the same hotkeys over and over again. I got bored real quick.
Aww... Thanks. He thinks we're a riot. That's nice of ya.
Heh, not too often that we get compliments. It's greatly appreciated.
This is the truth.
Well, that ends this Mailbag for now except for one more Reply we'll put in later.
Well then, what's our next topic? Cos you guys never told me. :P
Yeah well, we like to keep secrets. Especially from you.
Especially from you?
Well, I guess we need a Topic. Since we got two Replies on MMORPGs, a MMORPG topic would be good. "How should MMORPGs be fixed so they show more innovation and are more accessible to more people?" Send Replies to the usual address.
No, not from me. From YOU.
Not from me?
No. From you.
NO AHHH FOR THE LOVE OF GOD SHUT UP SG!
Shut up SG?
Shh... You two, stop. We need to leave then show Charlemagne's Reply so we don't die from it.
Good point 984. Charle... you're scary.
*Leaves SG and Kagon to their own insanity*
Er... before I run away screaming, here's the reply from Charlemange.
OK, The topic is like rpg free rant right? well that leaves alot of room for stuff. Lets take a look, FF1 I never played, or seen anyone play, or seen screen shots, or... well I might have seen screen shots but I doubt it. I dont remember any screen shots. well actually I did play it, but only till I go to the castle, then I was like "What is this garbage? this saved them? I wouldnt serve dog shoot* on this!" (*I will censor my self for the young and innocent viewers, that is if you put this in the mail bag, you didnt put my last/first mailbag thingy on, but maybe it was because every hated earthbound and you didnt need another post on how it is like the worst thing ever! not just in video games, it is the worst thing out of everytyhing in the universe it sucks so hard no light can escape from it. dont even get me started on earthbound. but man oh man that was an awful game)
Thanks for being considerate of the little ones, Charlemagne...
...and then I deleted it, formated my harddrive, stuck a magnet on to it as i drug it through a cactus patch, then I burned it and salted the earth, then I through it into a volcano. ok, maybe it wasnt that bad.
FF1's good. You've jut gotta be patient.
Then that gives us final fantasy 2, it was ok, i didnt bother beating it though cuz it bored the spit out of me.
FF2 requires even MORE patience. :P
then we got final fantasy 3 or 6 or whatever i never could get the numbers straight. one of the best games ever, it had the best music ever, this was the first final fantasy I played. i dont know where to start. uuuhhhmmm, ok lets move on to 4 and 5, meh. 7? Booya! its awsome, uh I think, maybe it sucked... no it didnt, because it had tifa and yuffie and what not, it could have been better (coughnuditycoughcoughfmvcough) *drinks a glass of water* excuse me, where was I? oh yeah i'm done with that. ok lets look at 8 the best final fantasy to date, it needed nudity.
I fail to see how you could dislike 4 or 5 and like the rest of the series :P
9 suck 10 sux0rz cuz 175 l31k on ps2 and ps2 is leik a waist of moni and has crappy grafix and its just a ps1 with a dvd playerr and i will nev0r play ff10 because no matter what the cercumstances are I wood nevar plat a ps2... unless cool people play it... wich they dont, they have a game cube, the superior race of gaming evolution R0XX0r!!!11111111
I play PS2, and I'm cool, right guys? ...Oh yeah they left. Well anyways they would have agreed, I'm cool. PS2, that's cool.
ok now lets look at bahamut laggooonn, it reeked.
It was ok. It requires some knowledge of raising dragons! Which I didn't have so I stopped playing it too :P
now how bout bof1, i never wanted to play through the first castle thingy, cuz it leik b0red me t0 high haven.
BoF 1 was nothing special true, but I liked it.
b0f2 one of my favorites, it had a great story kind of, it had cool music even though at that point snes on my computer didnt have sound and i dont reemmember. katt was hot and so was the bird chick... cat girls are hot... man, I wish I was a cat...
I don't. I'm allergic to cats. Wouldn't that suck if you were allergic to yourself?
I wish i had a tail... a prehencile tail, so i could pick up a staff and hit people or not. another cool cat is Battlecat from heman and the masters of the universe, I think they made a rpg out of that, but probably not. battle cat was teh b0mb!!!11. also another cool cat was cool cat, he was like a tiger that always went around doing stuff, who isnt a coool cat? uhhhh... i dont know. anyway, I got to the last dungeon and then somehow my rom got deleted. so i never got to see the end! how sad for me! i dont kno... wait... maybe that was bof 3... I dont remmber, leave me alone.
i dont even rmember if I played bof3... I do have b0f 4 though... or maybe its bof3... i dont remember, anyway its the one with the guy that turns into the dragon, and theres that long white haired guy with the big chinese dog that did stuff, and the robot chick... and the cat guy... i think thats 4 i am pretty sure it had a v in the name... anyway, yeah, thats a cool rpg i never bothered playing it to the end.
BoF 4 makes less sense than I do, so I don't blame you. In fact didn't someone mention that last mailbag? I forgot.
all rpgs are the same. uuuhhh. lets see, where are we? CHrono trigger! THE BEST GAME EVER MADE!!! its like better than all the final fantasies combined! ayla was scksay! cuz she had like a tail on her costume. magus is like my favorite person ever! i wish I was him... i base my life around this game. it should be in a moozyum somwhere...
Chrono cross was pretty crappy i never bothered playing it all the way through, every oonce in a long while I would start it up and wonder where I got to and where I should go, i'm like at the point where I think i am sposed to go to that triangle ocean thingy and go Back to the Future, and stuff or somthing i dunno.
Better than CT :P
uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh they need to make a good vampire rpg. and a- OH! hey you know starfox adventures? of course you do, anyway, that was sposed to be called just "dinosaur planet" and you would have played only as krystal (she is hot! mmm mmm mmm mmm mmm) and fox isnt even in the game. it would have been awsome, but noooooooo they were all like "hey shes like a fox right?" "yeah, shes foxxy" "well you know who else is a fox?" "uuuuhhhhhhhhhhhhh no?" "Starfox!" "his name is Fox Mcloud" "whatever, lets go pitch this stupid idea of ours to joe rareware founder of rareware blag balhlhala" "hey it wasnt my idea at all, i dont want to be blamed for this collosall mistake" "well too bad, i got pictures of you... with a goat!" "what? what are you talking about?" "you know what I'm talking about, biotch!" "your back on the sauce, arent you, jim?" "maybe I am, and maybe I AM! HAHAHAHAHAHAHHA *hic*" anyway, yeah, it went like that. or somthing. ok then they did it and every one was sad, the end.
This is a Free for all rant, but it's on RPGs so stop it :P
they cant really make an rpg out of spiderman or the x-men... but they might be able to make a silver surfer rpg, that would be cool, find planets for galactus to munch.uuuhhhhh, they should make a new mariorpg, i never played the original cuz it sounds insanly stupid.
Both Mario RPGs are ludicrously fun. You're missing out.
but I just though some of you might think its a goood idea. shenmue! they should make more games where you can collect quarter machine thingyes. that was cool.
I'll be playing that game soon!
they should make a harlem globtrotters rpg. they need to make games more interactive, I want to be able to talk to people and have them talk back but have different things to say depending on how I say it or what words I use or who I'm talking to and if I ask the same thing in the same way he should say somthing different or maybe say "I just told you!" or somtihng. they should make a Memento rpg, that would actually be pretty cool.
Nah, don't do that. You know how the book is always better than the movie? Well the movie is always better than the game. No Memento RPG.
as I was saying, games should be more interactive, shenmue was pretty good at it, but you couldnt do anything you would do in reall life. for instance the game could have a k-mart or somthing, where you could buy a backpack and you could hold a bunch of stuff but after a while you would lose your grip because of the awquard angle the things are being held. and I want to be able to walk into some random persons house and steal every thing. I wanna mug people. I wanna be able to marry a chick without a stinkin blue feather. this seams less of an rpg and more of a sim... well actually I guess its a type of cross breed. I WANT A GAME THAT HAS A HUMAN BRAIN INSIDE IT!!! ONE THAT WOULD CONCIDER ANY POSSIBLE MOVE AND HAVE AN ANSWER FOR IT!!! they need to be able to do that!!!
and what ever happend to Virtual reality? they never really went anywhere with that.sure they have some stuff at certain arcades. but this is the year 2002! in the 80's the year 2000 and up would have flying cars and vr visors in every household and tiny bagle bite type pizzas that you would put in this oven device and it would pop out a large pizza. and all food would come in little pills and when you squirt a drop f water on it they plump into a full course meal and steming turkey and mashed pootatatos and what not. and cities under the ocean! wheres the flying cars!?!?!?
If there was EVER a VR RPG, that would just be...Yikes. There were never any virtual boy RPGs for a REASON :P
And why dont they translate dating sims? they look funner than real dating when I see them in anime and manga and stuff. I want a dating sim not that I couldnt have my choice of any girl in california. why does all the cool stuff stay in japan? and why havent they made a new zelda anime? i also wanna see more fish in video games.
There are more fish in the video games in Japan :P
and Iwant a game like shenmue, only you can actually go around the world and visit millions of cities with millions of different people that each have a million different things to say depending on what you have done earlier in the game. I want a game where you can go to a movie theater and watch a real movie, liek alien or back to the future, good movies. I want a highly detailed SIMLIFE. but its kind of not a sim its like an rpg... no. maybe its sim... but stilll its coo.
That would be like, almost impossible. Good luck ever finding a game like that. :P Hmm, bye. *leaves*